Archive for the ‘Which lineage?’ Category

Who Owns the Teaching?

January 27, 2009

Subforum: Traditions > Tibetan Buddhism > Gelug Fellowship Forum
Thread title: Gelug Vajrayogini Lineage Master, Khyabje Gehlek Rimpoche
Page No: 1
Date: May 15th 2007

A discussion in a Gelugpa subforum about a particular practice is interrupted with:

Namdrol (Former E-sangha global moderator):

Just keep in mind– the owner of this teaching is HH Sakya Trizin, and no one else.

Forum member:

how can an individual “own” a teaching? Isnt vajrayogini the naro kacho? isnt the teaching intended for the benefit of all sentient beings? your statement is divisive and incorrect, not to mention the fact that is is blatantly sectarian.

Namdrol (Former E-sangha global moderator):

Naro Khachod was given to Sachen Kunga Nyinpo, the third throne holder of Sakya, by Mal Lotsawa, who was resposible for translating much of the Chakrasamvara tantric cycle.

Teaching lineages in Tibet indeed have “owners” as such, and in this case the owner of the thirteen golden dharmas of Sakya, of which Naro Khachod is a part, is whoever happens to be the throne holder of the Sakya order, who in turn is the second highest Lama in Tibetan Buddhism.

The Sakya Trizen’s are the Lamas mainly responsible for upholding and promulgating Naro Khachod. This has been their responsibility for the past 900 years. The recent popularity of Naro Khachod in the Gelug school is commendable, but it does nothing to change of the fact of where the main lineage comes from and is maintained.

This is not a sectarian statement, merely one of fact.

Forum member:

not really fact considering that the thread is “gelug lineage master”, and you took the time to interject a sectarian point that was invalid within the context of the thread.

Namdrol (Former E-sangha global moderator):

It may be the case that Gelug lineage holder is whoever you say it is. This does not mean that he is the owner of the teaching. There is a difference between being a brgyud ‘dzin and a brgyud bdag.