Archive for the ‘Buddhism should not make you happy’ Category


February 1, 2009

Subforum: Topics in Buddhism > Personal experience
Thread title: Has your feeling of Happiness increased?
Page no: 1, 4
Date: Dec 4th 2005

Forum member:

The question of happiness increasing, decreasing, or staying the same since practicing Dharma comes to mind. Looking back, I still go up and down with emotions…but my baseline of happiness has definitely increased…I wouldn’t practice Dharma if the result were different.

I’m interested in your experience…

Namdrol (Former E-sangha global moderator):

If your happiness has increased since you became a Buddhist, you are not practicing Dharma correctly, and I suggest you reflect more deeply on the faults of samsara.

Forum member:

WoW. Some people can make Buddhism sound like a real ‘bummer’. What with all these other posts going on now that ‘you can’t be a Buddhist if . . . ‘, add to them you can’t be a Buddhist if your happy!.

Namdrol (Former E-sangha global moderator):

Samsara is the Bummer– Buddhism merely correctly identifies what samsara actually is and proposes how to deal with it.

But if someone is looking for a feel good religion, they better become new agers– they won’t find this in Dharma.

Forum member:

you seem to disagree with other Buddhists.
In the art of happiness the Dalai Lama categorically states that he is happy.
And Sharon Salzberg believes Lovingkindness meditation to be a revolutionary art of happiness, that she experiences this lifetime without yet attaining enlightenment.

can you think why this might be?

Namdrol (Former E-sangha global moderator):

For the lay person they are communicating that the postive mental factors that they, or anyone, who experiences them as “happiness” in contrast with negative mental factors.

And the Dalai Lama says in this book– that the way to find happiness is to directly confront suffering.

We really are not saying anything different from one another.

I already clarified however that despite the fact that there was no happiness in samsara, that postive mental factors and pleasant sensations can and do occur.

But my view is a practitioner’s view, based on many years of practice, and I don’t have any books to sell.

Howard Cutler and Sharon on the other hand, have a book to sell.

Sadly, cultivating the four immeasurables themselves will not lead to liberation– and thus, they do not lead to true happiness.